Morgan Freeman is excellent as their bar owning older pal. Bryon and Mark, the main characters, meet a hippie named Randy, who was formerly (though it is not mentioned) Bob's best friend. In all, if your gonna make the movie fluff, at least leave the ending to strike you! It is located at 3242 N. Peoria in Tulsa, OK. [Thanks to TLB] Editors Note: The lot has changed somewhat in the meantime and the structure of the Dairy Queen with its distinctive roof has now gone. The movie did a horrible job replicating that. While the setting was from years past, the ethical questions raised and the teenage situations were quite apropos. The Outsiders is a 1983 American coming-of-age drama film directed by Francis Ford Coppola.The film is an adaptation of the 1967 novel of the same name by S. E. Hinton and was released on March 25, 1983 in the United States. I still managed to slightly enjoy both. I feel and love and cry over Ponyboy and his story, however, I want to question, analyze, and … Jilted friend resorts to cockblocking. The scene in which Emilio explains his parents demise is truly memorable and powerful. Hinton's saga of teenage angst. Ponyboy Curtis, the youngest member of the greasers, narrates the novel. The film is very realistic and the performances are really good. Mark was caught while driving by the cops and Bryon went to Mark to see him and Bryon wasnt mad at mark. That could not be more true. The Outsiders is a coming-of-age novel by S. E. Hinton, first published in 1967 by Viking Press.Hinton was 15 when she started writing the novel but did most of the work when she was 16 and a junior in high school. The acting was pretty bad, except for Emilio Estivez who actually was enduring and cute. It was good. Despite this, I thought it was pretty good, and I liked it until the last few scenes. In the novel, Ponyboy has light-brown hair and greenish-gray eyes. Some novels lend themselves to that kind of reinterpretation easily, but S.E. This is an excellent underrated film, that's often quite powerful and gripping, with a great story and amazing performances!. It's a very Hinton-esquire story. Empathy, the ability to see things through another person's perspective, is central to the resolution of both the gang and the family conflict in The Outsiders.The two gangs' preoccupation with the appearance and class status of their rivals underscores the superficiality of their mutual hostility, which thrives on stereotypes and prejudice. Cathy was cute too but her acting was pretty bad. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. The book was later adapted into a 1985 film starring Emilio Estevez and Craig Sheffer. While all these actors from the 1983 film are recognizable names, some have been more successful than others. He got his first big acting role in Steven Spielberg’s E.T., playing the role of cigarette-smoking Tyler when he was just 12 years old. With careful, intimate strokes, Hinton reveals a boy struggling over whether to protect his best friend or whether to … The ending freaked me out. An okay teenage drug drama movie with a good cast and interesting characters, but I hate the ending. Hinton said this about That Was Then, This Is Now: "The Outsiders made you feel. Bryon’s mom: The widowed mother of Bryon who has essentially adopted Mark, as well. I always loved S.E. This Is Now on Scripts.com! In English class, we read S.E. At the school dance, Mark introduces Pony to Cathy, and Bryon is wary, although he soon realizes that Cathy is not interested in leaving him for Ponyboy, as Angela did. The book was okay, not great. Also, it takes place in the same city. Bryon stayed with Cathy instead of leaving her. Jill Schoelen is very cute and does fine as Angela she had good chemistry with Sheffer and just seemed like a nice ordinary girl, I liked her lots. This is a very underrated and unknown film. All the characters are excellent, and I was lucky enough to find this at my video store and buy it for 1$ at the VHS blow out sale, plus Emilio Estevez and Craig Sheffer are simply incredible in this!. I was born in 1970. I'm not going to start on Christopher Cain, even though his movies tend to bite the dust..... At least this one had some decent acting, but characterization is what made the book by S.E.Hinton so powerful, And, yes, against better judgement, I will compare this to the book, with SPOILERS.... Mark in the book is popular likeable and dare-devilish, in the movie he's seems to be nothing but a punk w/ dare-devilish inclinations!! Excellent underrated film, that's often quite powerful and gripping, with a great story, and amazing performances! This movie disappointed me. The first edition of the novel was published in 1971, and was written by S.E. one of the most powerful scenes in the movie for me is when Bryan, and Mark get into a fight because Mark was responsible for giving drugs to M&M,and Estevez and Sheffer had brilliant chemistry together, plus this is truly an underrated gem. job here with awesome camera work, solid angles giving the film some good atmosphere and keeping it at an engrossing pace. Yikes. Emilio did a good job acting but, it doesn't make up for the many other mistakes made. *minor spoilers*. Susan Eloise Hinton, known to her multitudes of readers as "S. E. Hinton," a trick that she and her early publisher used to mask her gender, is credited with revolutionizing the young adult book industry with the 1967 publication of her coming-of-age book, The Outsiders, which she published when she was only seventeen years old. I would only recommend seeing this if you're a big Morgan Freeman fan because his performance is pretty good and is worth seeing for his performance alone if you're a fan. Although Cathy makes jokes to Bryon about Ponyboy asking her out - when she wants Bryon to - at the end of the story, Ponyboy and Cathy do start dating, and as a result, Bryon pushes her away. Yet, Emilio Estevez does manage to save his character somewhat, it's Bryan that was under-scored heavily, they should've represented more of that downtown background he has in the book, but alas, they made him nothing but a reformed punk akin to the Mark in the movie (which, alone I will say is good, but this is based on the book, I guess that spoiled it for me.) He is portrayed by C. Thomas Howell in the film. Yes, the book's the same way, but a lot more bitter..... when Bryan spoke with Mark in prison, Bryan left afraid of Mark, since Mark had the same mischieviousness about him, but also a darker-side which Bryan felt Mark could kill him if he wanted to!!!!! If it would've ended like the book, it could've been a little better but not by much. Particularly, when she was driving the car when M&M was hallucinating. The ending is what really made it bad. She dumped Bryon to pursue Ponyboy, and when he … The characters however, look different from what I imagined in the book. It was horrible. Jo Ellen Misakian, a librarian at Lone Star Elementary School in Fresno, California, and her students were responsible for inspiring Coppola to make the film. What happened to Ponyboy on the way home from the movie in S. E. Hinton's ... Darry then yells at him for the same thing ... Q&A, and analyses you need to get better grades now. He should have also had talked to Mark instead of kicking him out of the house right off the bat. The Web's largest and most comprehensive scripts resource. I loved the book, but this movie really depressed me at how much better it could've been. The end of the book is really different from the end of the movie because at the end of the book Brian was afraid of Mark and at the end of the movie Mark forgave Brian. were bigger hits, these movies along with a couple of others were incredibly important in what it means to be a friend, what it meant to grow up, and what it meant to grow up in the 80's. But this isn't a sequel, because it doesn't otherwise continue the story of The Outsiders. Hinton involved and Francis Coppola should've directed. Contains Spoiler I read the book before I saw the movie, so the book influenced my opinion of the movie. That was then, this is now. Some essential scenes are missing such as Mike Chamber's story which helps the reader really understand the motivation behind Bryon's change of heart. The book was really different from the movie. They were not impressed at all and everyone agreed that it is not a good portrayal of the book. While many movies such as Pretty In Pink, etc. This Is Now? (you'll see what I mean when you watch it). With Emilio Estevez, Craig Sheffer, Larry B. Scott, Matthew Dudley. Otherwise, I liked the movie and the book because they were really different from each other. It appears that C. Thomas Howell, the actor who played the starring role of Ponyboy Curtis in the movie grew up to have quite the lucrative acting career as an adult. They also briefly talk to Ponyboy, who is simply referred to as 'Curtis' and is now dating Angela Shepherd. Start studying Outsiders Practice Test. Start studying That Was Then, This Is Now Study Guide. SPOILER I think that the book was funny and interesting. (spoilers), the book and movie were completely different, Better than the Outsiders but still could have been better. You know, that one kooky dream that just never materializes? | But when Bryan falls in love, Mark feels betrayed and lonely. Directed by Christopher Cain. Will be on my buy list when I get a little money. The main character, Bryon, was sometimes enjoyable to watch and sometimes hard to watch. Childhood friendship ends when one of the boys discovers girls and leaves his wingman behind. As result of this questionable rewrite, the novel's focus on the greaser/soc conflict dying off is completely absent, as are other time period-specific subplots. Authors: Laurie Spiegel. The Outsiders was only his second film ever. Learn vocabulary, terms, and more with flashcards, games, and other study tools. This movie was not very good. If anything, Bryan still felt what I would say "carnalismo" in him after getting beat-up by the Sheperd brothers as well as feel responsible for stopping the violence, rather than looking like a whipped pup!! However it is nowhere as good as the book. In the movie Bryon didnt call the cops on Mark. That Was Then, This Is Now Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. That Was Then...This Is Now is decent 80s Teen film and although it is filled with good direction and great performances it is still the weakest S.E Hinton film adaptation but still has good things about it. ....should have stayed as one of those things that are always on the back burner! The most mediocre of the S.E. Well, did Ponyboy “ ”? 'That Was Then, This is Now' was the last film adaptation (although the TV series for 'The Outsiders' follows five years later after the release of this movie). Ponyboy Michael Curtis is the narrator and protagonist of the 1967 novel The Outsiders, and its 1983 film adaptation. Though only fourteen years old, he understands the way his social group functions and … She had no emotion just like when she was in the hospital waiting room with her dad. I feel sorry for SE Hinton that her story was so poorly portrayed. That Was Then, This Is Now is the story of two working class youths who look like She generally stays out of the boys’ personal lives, but treats them with love and compassion. I actually liked the movie until it ended. ), but other Outsiders (most notably Tim Shepard) remained intact without aging a day-- effectively destroying any continuity it might have had with the film it was undoubtedly cashing in on. They made Emilio the center of the story when, the bond between Mark and Bryon was supposed to be the center. Also the movie had Mark steal a car at the end with a police chase instead of having Bryan turn Mark in to the police for dealing drugs. She's not a good actress. https://that-was-then-this-is-now.fandom.com/wiki/Ponyboy_Curtis?oldid=4534. Hinton's novels as a kid: The Outsiders, Rumble Fish (which in my opinion, is the greatest film adaptation in the series despite everyone's fascination with The Outsiders), Tex, and That Was Then This is Now. "The movie was okay, but the book was better". Hinton was 18 when the book was published. The movie had the typical Hollywood happy ending. SPOILER!!! External Reviews Ponyboy theorizes on the motivations and personalities of his friends and describes events in a slangy, youthful voice. The Greasers walk Cherry and M… Learn vocabulary, terms, and more with flashcards, games, and other study tools. If that was the case, I could see giving good 'ole Emilio a pat on the head and saying "That's it kid...keep reaching for the stars! Hinton trademarked teenage obstacles they encounter. S.E. Parade traces the paths of The Outsiders movie cast and caught up with what they’re up to now. That was then - This is now. Mark and Bryan's friendship slowly starts to deteriorate. User Ratings The year after "The Outsiders" hit the screen, Ralph Macchio made a big splash as the star of "Karate Kid." Okay, I've seen this movie at Language Arts class AFTER I read the book. My grade 10 ESL students read the book and then watched this film version. But S.E. Mark doesn't get into drugs, he just sells them. The movie was not as good as the book. Kim Delaney does fine as the troubled teen I liked her. They enjoy getting into brawls, stealing cars, and hanging out at the local bar. And also, I don't think he's in the movie I'm not sure he is after reading the wikipedia page. The story generated a great deal of quality discussion in class...education at it's finest. that bases his life on all the rampant going on's in the hood'. you may not have caught it, he's called "Curtis" most of "That Was Then, This Is Now". Actions ↑ Top; Comments (6) Comments. For one thing, Ponyboy is mentioned in it. A very young Craig Sheffer plays his best friend Bryan. Hinton novels). Someone needs to be blamed for this poor excuse of a film! Craig Sheffer is just as good, he was really likable, and you will feel happy for him because he is getting his life on track and is growing up, it's just too bad his career never really took off, because he impressed the hell out of me here!. If it would've been directed by Francis Coppola, it might've been better but, this movie was really bad. Ponyboy, a young member of a small gang of Greasers, is leaving a movie theater when a group of Socs jumps him. And if you're hoping for a sequel, prepare to be disappointed. Emilio Estevez is amazing as always and is incredible here, his character was a trouble maker, but was just so likable, that you are able to feel sorry for his character, I especially felt bad for him near the end, he also had brilliant chemistry with Craig Sheffer, brought lots of energy and charm to the role, and just did an amazing job this is one of his best performances! A lot of the other characters, such as Cathy, M&M, Charlie, Angela, and the shepherd brothers also made the movie and the book interesting, especially near the end. The next night, Ponyboy and his friends Dally and Johnny meet Cherry Valance and Marcia at a drive-in movie theatre. 13.49; Download full-text PDF Read full-text. He's cute so that helps, but his acting wasn't great and it ruined some of the scenes. Ponyboy is one of Mark's friends, although Bryon holds a grudge against him because Ponyboy had the good sense to stay away from Angela Shepard. Free download or read online That Was Then, This Is Now pdf (ePUB) book. In the book Brian and Cathy are not together and in the movie they are still together. That Was Then, This Is Now will make you think." But I can forgive these things, what made me vote 6 on this was the ending, happy 80's music and a "lighten-up dude" ending. | And of course, Morgan Freeman was awesome as he always is but his part wasn't major in this movie. Morgan Freeman is amazing in his small role as the Bartender and as always couldn't take my eyes off him when he was on screen (Freeman Rules!!!!!!!). That is why I liked the book so much because it doesn't cheapen the story by having a happy ending. Sep 06, 2010. END SPOILER. Christopher Cain does an excellent! Ponyboy makes a brief appearance in Hinton's second novel That Was Then, This is Now. Rated R for Language,Drug Content and Some Violence. April 1996; Computer Music Journal 20(1):42-45; DOI: 10.2307/3681268. they are on a street to nowhere in their lives. They steal cars and get in fights, but Sheffer is clearly the more well-behaved of the two. Awards A solid rental. Emilio's character has a crappy family life, and spends most of his time with Sheffer and his single mom, who treats Emilio like her own son. It was 37 years ago, in March 1983, that "The Outsiders" opened in movie theaters nationwide, taking Tulsa author S.E. For the character's main article, see Ponyboy Curtis on The Outsiders Wiki. This movie was really bad. When I saw the movie I actually liked it. This movie really should've had S.E. SPOILER: he gets killed. All of the actors in the film give equally good performacnes in particular Morgan Freemen and Craig Sheffer. And we don't know this till the end of the film anyway. 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